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Ian Riley Purchases LMS Black 5 No 44871
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Ian Riley Purchases LMS Black 5 No 44871 Reply with quote

As of 12am on Wednesday 20th Sept, loco 44871 joined the family of 'Riley's locos'. Can we expect future Black 5 double heading?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait to see another black five in action. Hopefully with its nameplates. Good one Riley.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Ive read in Heritage Railway this morning, Riley hopes that 44871 will be ready for Early Sumer 20008, for the 40th Anniversary of the Fifteeen Guinea Special railtour on the 11th August 2008, with 44871 and 45407 double heading for the Railtour, with 45407 being renumbered to 44781.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As Ive read in Heritage Railway this morning, Riley hopes that 44871 will be ready for Early Sumer 20008,


Ive never known one of Ians overhauls to take that long!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't the last time this engine saw work was in the early/mid-90s?

So that'll almost be the same state as what (for example) Vera is on NYMR.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasnt even middle 90s, it was more like early 80s to early 90s I think, and its condition was worse than Vera.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard is correct, the loco definately worked in 1993, not sure about beyond but I seem to remember it coming out of ticket in 94/95.

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It'd be rather nice if you didn't spout rubbish about something you where obviously too young to actually know anything about d'oh! Think

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you now like to now stop passing your serious annoyin comments. If you opened your eyes you would see it looked worse than Vera.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you now like to now stop passing your serious annoyin comments. If you opened your eyes you would see it looked worse than Vera.



To be fair, mate, you need extremely good eyesight to make that sort of judgement - external condition is not a guide.

To make any sort of assessment of the mechanical integrity of any piece of machinery requires a certain amount of, if not complete, dismantling. Clearnaces in axleboxes and guides can be partly checked after removing the underkeeps and then poking around with feeler blades; stays can be examined after removing washout plugs; tube ends by entering the firebox and smokebox. But to look properly you have to drop the wheels, pull tubes out, etc.

Everyone thinks that the Manor on the SVR is in appalling condition, having seen photos of the holes in the cab sides. It might or might not be, but the condition of some sheet steel is no guidance. You need to look carefully in the right places.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you now like to now stop passing your serious annoyin comments. If you opened your eyes you would see it looked worse than Vera.


Sorry, but when someone posts something with ZERO evidence, or actual memories, about something that I happen to know a bit about, its rather annoying. Maybe you should stop your 'serious annoyin comments' and look things up before posting garbage.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everyone thinks that the Manor on the SVR is in appalling condition, having seen photos of the holes in the cab sides. It might or might not be, but the condition of some sheet steel is no guidance. You need to look carefully in the right places.
Ye thats how Ive judged 44871, and to be fair I cant say if its in worse conditions than Vera in terms of its 'insides'.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everyone thinks that the Manor on the SVR is in appalling condition, having seen photos of the holes in the cab sides. It might or might not be, but the condition of some sheet steel is no guidance. You need to look carefully in the right places.
Ye thats how Ive judged 44871, and to be fair I cant say if its in worse conditions than Vera in terms of its 'insides'.


Surely if it was in bad condition, it wouldn't have been mainline passed and had relatively trouble-free running for a period before it was withdrawn Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask who he bought it off? and has this loco ran before? or is it being restored from scrap condition?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loco was a mainline runner up until at least 1993. It was based at Bo'ness, until moving to Bury for overhaul by the Beets, and subsequentlly purchased by Ian.

Not entirely sure who owned it though - but pretty sure they owned it since its preservation in '68.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah i see, well thanks very much for this information Very Happy

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